This is the very kind interview with Lucas Falk, including Peter Malmberg as fellow guest. Late in the evening during Lincon, Lucas found a corridor which seemed quiet, pulled some interesting high-backed, well-padded chairs into a curiously intimate small circle, and commenced to interview there. We did not expect that most of Linköping would then gather in that exact area and make noise, so the interview is more "naturalistic" than it should be, but that clears soon.
The pictured item is the famous bilar ("cars") candy that we mention at the very end. Yes, I know they look like futuristic mutant rat babies. I am fairly certain that they are cleverly repurposed leftover material from making tires or perhaps insulation for spacegoing vehicles, but also that they are irresistible.
The interview audio alone doesn't quite capture the interaction among us. It sounds as if I'm monologuing a lot, but at the time, we took nonverbal cues from one another about who was speaking next, or to continue, or for reactions which then received verbal responses. So it's not just a speech or riffing. I'm hoping to see some comments from Peter and Lucas that extend some of what was said into more detailed exchanges.
The context also matters, and it doesn't get articulated until partway through: that Lucas and Peter have been conducting a dialogue for a while about "what is role-playing" and "we do need a theory, but what is it, and why." So the stated goal of this interview was to place the Big Model where it "belongs" relative to what they've been discussing.
Here's the Fummelpodden link!